To Cast A Villain: Liandrin Guirale

I originally posted this on http://www.wheeloftime.tv/

Last week I told you guys that I had an actress picked out to play the Liandrin and that actress is Margot Robbie. She definitely has the acting chops and, with the exception of eye color, she is exactly how I picture Liandrin.

Margot Robbie

Now there are two reasons I don’t think this is feasible. The first reason is not a huge deal, she has blue eyes while Liandrin has dark brown eyes. Not a big a deal and easily fixed or even ignored. The second one is far more important, the budget. Liandrin is not an important enough character to spend the money we would need to spend to get Margot Robbie. So while I think she would perfect, it is an unrealistic casting.

Now that we are past that let’s talk about Liandrin. While we don’t get much of a description for her, but we do know she has dark brown eyes and honey-colored hair. She is pretty and has a doll’s face and a rosebud mouth. She is taller than Moiraine by a hand (TGH, Ch. 4). She is slightly taller than Nynaeve (TDR, Ch. 49). She has the ageless face of an Aes Sedai (TPoD, Ch. 24). While her eye color may be negotiable the multitude of braids. I am on the fence about the “rosebud mouth”. While it is a defining aspect of her appearance, I think it could be sacrificed and not missed. I do think it is important for her to look sweet. I always felt like her looks were in contrast to her personality and that it was done on purpose.

As far as her personality, she is mean and conniving, though she doesn’t quite look it. I don’t think the actress that is chosen to play her will need a wide acting range, though she will have to act afraid at one point. So we need someone with a rosebud mouth (maybe) who is pretty, but mean and conniving or at least can act mean and conniving.

Sharon Leal is an actress that I think would do well in this role. Some of you may remember her from my To Cast a Villian:Semirhage post. I like her for this part more than I do for Semirhage. She has a strong acting resume and I think she can play “bad” very well. We would have to lighten her hair (which is not a big deal). Most of her experience is in TV series, which I think bodes well for anyone that gets a part in this venture.

Sharon Leal

Now I know some people may disagree with this casting because the envision Liandrin as Caucasian. But we do not have a skin color for Taraboners in general and we don’t have a description of skin color for Liandrin. We know some of them to have yellow-honey hair colored and dark eyes. With the knowledge that the Breaking shifted the landscape and the country lines it is completely feasible (in my opinion) that most nations have a bit of a diverse population, like Seanchan. That being said I am standing by this casting.

I also really like Lily Collins for this role. She actually may be too talented for it (and unattainable) but based on what I have seen of her acting skill and her look I think she would make a good Liandrin. I actually can think of a few other roles she would do well, but none of them are villains. We would have to lighten her hair and maybe give her contacts. But I think her acting ability would make up for any think her look “lacked”.

Lily Collins

Another actress I like for this role is Rose Byrne. You may remember her from X-Men: First Class (2011) or Annie (2014). Rose is a more experienced actress so I do not know if the idea of an Amazon Prime Series would appeal to her. I have no doubts about her acting ability, and while she is older I don’t think it will matter because “movie magic” is going to make the all look Ageless, right? (I really hope that get that right)

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My last suggestion is Eliza Dushku. Honestly, I think she is the most realistic fit, based on budget and the availablity of the actress. You may recognize as Arnold and Jamie Lee’s daughter in True Lies(1994) or as Faith on Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1998 -2003), but she has been busy since then. She has both movies and television series on her resume. I think she would do well in the role of Liandrin, she has the look and I think she has an excellent “mean girl face”, but is still pretty. She looks like she is always up to something, but could totally talk her way out of it.

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Now after doing all this casting, I will say, I think Liandrin will probably be one of the characters that get cut. He character arc is not impressive or that important. She is one of the Thirteen Black Sisters that stole several ter’angreal from the Tower storerooms and then fled Tar Valon.(TDR, Ch. 13). And while the number 13 is important in the series, I think it is one of those nuances that will be sacrificed for the sake of time and budget.

I would love for them to put every single thing in the books into the television series, but I am realistic. There is money involved in this venture and some hard decisions (or not so hard depending on who you ask) need to be made. And think Liandrin’s role can be folded into another character or dropped altogether. But I will not go too deeply into that here since this is about casting.

But there you have it. My three picks for Liandrin. Next week we will be casting Alviarin Freidhen (a Black Sister I hope they don’t cut out)

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To Cast a Villain: The Musician Edition

I originally posted this on the www.wheeloftime.tv blog

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Joar Addam Nessosin, a noted composer of music and child prodigy during the Age Of Legends that never seemed to quite reached his full potential in adulthood. Apparently, this was something that caused him a great deal of shame and anger.

So what does this great artist do?

He turns to the Shadow. That is right, he throws his lot in with the Dark One, himself.  

(Talk about a temperamental artist, sheesh)

His logic?

He would become immortal and have time to reach fame and glory through his music.

(Y’all can’t see the face I am making but it is totally the face that Jim from The Office Television Series makes when he looks into the camera after someone does or says something stupid)

But he was not remembered as Joar Addam Nessosin, great composer. He was remembered as Asmodean, one of the Forsaken that was trapped in the Bore.

And to be honest, he wasn’t even the scariest or craziest or most evil. Despite all that he is my favorite male Forsaken. He really did just want to play his music and be remembered for his talent. He just picked the worse possible way to do it.
Another reason he might be my favorite is that I always pictured him as a middle-aged Johnny Depp.

Johnny Depp in all his past glory

But I digress. Today we are casting Asmodean, the Musician (that is what his name means in the Old Tongue, see not scary).

We don’t get much information about his physical appearance. The descriptions we do have of him are as Jasin Natael, but I think we can assume that he appeared as himself and did not use the Mask of Mirrors to alter his appearance. He was in his middle years, tall and handsome. He had dark hair and dark, deep-set eyes. It is noted that women would find him attractive.

While he does spend a lot of time with Rand, there is only one (maybe two) time the story is from his POV. Everything we learn about him is from his interactions with Rand and Lanfear. His character does not really display a wide range of emotions. I think whoever plays him will need to make the audience like him, maybe even feel sorry for him, but not completely trust him.

This was actually a little difficult for me because that image of Johnny has been set in my head as Asmodean for so long. When I actually started thinking about who could play Asmodean the first person that popped into my head was Adam Driver. I don’t find him particularly attractive but some ladies, so it could work.

Adam Driver

Now, I really think he is out of reach, and pretty busy. But I think he has the look and the acting ability. I mean I kind of feel bad Kylo Ren, but I also think he is a whiney, little b!#&h. Luke Evans would be good too, but not gonna happen.

Now for my picks:

Penn Badgley

Penn Badgley’s look is close (something about the eyes is off for me) and based on his IMBD he seems to have the experience. I do not recall seeing him in anything, but I would be willing to take a chance on him. The majority of his work does seem to have been in several different television series, so that is a good thing.

Karan Kundra

Karan Kundra is an Indian television actor best known for playing the role of Arjun Punj in Ekta Kapoor’s Indian soap opera Kitani Mohabbat Hai that aired on NDTV Imagine. Now, of course, I have not seen this, but I do like his look and I did watch some stuff on YouTube. He would do the role justice. And I mean look at him, it would work. I also think Asomdean with an accent would be believable. Actually, I think all the Forsaken should have a slight accent since their native language is Old Tongue and what is spoken in the books is a bastardized version of that. But I will save that for another post.

Adrian Brody

Adrian Brody is my last pick. He has the look, and I have seen him in things, and I think he could play Asmodean just fine. But is this a realistic casting? I am going to say yes and this is why. What is the last thing you saw Adrian Brody in? ….. Exactly. I am not taking anything away from his talent, and he has been busy. I mean, he has been working pretty consistently since 1988, but I honestly don’t think his asking price would be as high as Adam Driver (his dance card is very full). So I think, if approached the right way, Brody would be on board.

And there you have it, my casting choices for Asmodean. I won’t lie, this one was difficult, not only because of my own biases, but school just started and I had to go back to work. Basically, I had to be a responsible adult and couldn’t spend my time looking at cute guys on the internet.

Anyway, I am going to shake things up a little and cast a member of the Black Ajah. We will be looking who could at who could play Liandrin. Honestly, I think they may cut her out of the story, but I have some actresses in mind for her already so we are going to cast her.

Don’t forget to let me know who you think would make a good Asmodean! Emai me at ebonysedai@gmail.com

To Cast Villian: Semirhage, The Mistress of Pain

*I originally posted this on the Wheeloftime.tv blog at the request of Narg Trolloc.

Namene Damendar Boann,

Mistress of Pain,

The Forsaken that actually scares the other Forsaken,

Semirhage!

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She is my favorite female Forsaken (Mesaana is a close second). As such, I am going to go ahead and tell y’all that my fantasy casting pic for Semi is Angela Bassett.

 

But we don’t have “Bassett Bucks” so we are just going to continue on with a more realistic casting. And for the record Viola Davis would be my second pick and she would kill the role. But we don’t have “Davis Dollars”, either, so….

Let’s start with Semirahge’s physical appearance. From the book we know:

  • She is taller than most men, with a smooth dark face and dark eyes (LOC prologue)
  • She is slender and very tall. Her charcoal black face is beautiful and she has large black eyes and full lips (WH, CH 14)
  • She has short, wavy, black hair. (WH, CH17)

The WoT Companion gives us a bit more detail. She is 6’1 ½ “. With skin a dark as one of the Sea Folk with large dark brown eyes and short, wavy black hair she is considered beautiful by many. She is also described as being slender, graceful and having delicate hands.

The biggest issue I think we will have when trying to find an actress to match Semirhage’s height AND being slender with delicate hands so I am not going to worry about height so much. I would still like to see an actress on the taller side in this role, but I am not holding my breath for someone 6’1 1/2″. Anyway, I am sure they can create the illusion of height if necessary.

 

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Whoever is cast for the role of Semirhage she will have to have an imposing screen presence. The WoT companion says Semi had a “cool, even cold, and imperious air” but when she was in her sadist glory she was ruthless, cruel and a vicious killer. So we are going to need an actress that looks cool, calm, and collected one minute and terrifyingly cruel the next. However, she will also need to have an almost clinical way about here when talking or performing her sadist acts. I mean, she was a Healer during the Age of Legends.

If you look back at her torturing of Cabriana Mecandes in Chapter 6 of Lord of Chaos you can see an example of her calculated cruelty.


These picks aren’t in any specific order. I actually don’t favor one actress over the other, but from the pool of known actresses, these are the three I think would do the role justice in both appearance and acting. And they won’t blow the budget. (I really wish we had “Basset Bucks” though)

Tika Sumpter


Tika Sumpter
 is the closest when it comes to Semirhage’s look. She seems delicate at first glance but I think she would be able to pull off cold and calculating, as well as, scary as hell. She has a few movies under her belt but has done more TV work. Her career does seem to be taking off as she is currently working on or finishing up 5 projects, so she may not be as realistic of a choice as I like, but I think she would do well in the role.

Sharon Leal

Next, we have Sharon Leal. Leal has been working in “the biz” since the late 90’s. She had a recurring role on Guiding Light as Dahlia Crede from 1996 – 99. She also had recurring roles on Boston Public and Private Practice. More recently she has appeared on Instinct (TV series) as Lt. Jasmine Gooden and on the Supergirl TV series as M’gann M’orzz. I will

be honest, I don’t think her look is quite Semirhage. There is a softness to her face that I don’t imagine Semi has, BUT if her acting skills are up to par that softness wouldn’t matter

Anna Diop

And, finally, we have Anna Diop. You may have heard about the controversy surrounding her playing of Starfire in the new Titans streaming series.  The majority of Diop’s experience is in television. Most recently she has appeared on the series Bosch as Desiree Zealy and as Nicole Carter on 24 Legacy. I think given the chance to play Semirhage she would us noteworthy performance. As far as “the look” I don’t think she has the delicacy Semirhage is described as having. That aside, she is fully capable cool, calm and crazy vibe.

So that is it for this week’s To Cast a Villian. Who would you pick to play the Mistress of Pain? Email me at Ebonysedia@gmail.com.

Next week we will be casting Asmodean!

Padan Fain: Not Your Average Villain

Here it is! The first in my To Cast a Villain blog series. I hope you enjoy and please, feel free to send me any feedback or suggestions you may have.  Let’s begin with Padan Fain.

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Padan Fain by Ariel Burgess

When we first meet Padan Fain, he is a simple peddler that brings goods and news to the Two Rivers from the outside world. In the Eye of the World Rand’s internal dialogue lets us know that last year Padan Fain finally started acknowledging the boys and seeing them as “men.” Of course, we later find that Fain’s attention to the boys had a nefarious purpose.

Padan Fain is from Lugard in Murandy. We don’t have a general physical description ofhqdefault people from Murandy, but Fain is described as being pale, skinny, has gangly arms, and a massive beak of a nose (TEotW, Ch. 3). Personally, I have always envisioned the Disney animated version of Ichabod Crane.

 

Knowing Fain is from Lugard gives us a bit of insight into his personality. Lugard also has a reputation for thievery and licentiousness. Residents consider any outsider to be a fair mark for theft or con (TWoRJTWoT, Ch. 30). So, it is not surprising that he went the route of Dark Friend.

Aside from having a very distinct look, the actor that plays Fain will need to be able to convey a condescending attitude, vengeance and just plain crazy. A popular fan choice

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Andy Serkis

for Fain is Andy Serkis, you know Gollum from The Lord of the Rings movies. Most recently, he played Ulysses Klaue in Black Panther. Now, as far as acting chops I absolutely think Serkis could handle the part. But for me, he doesn’t fit the physical description. Now for some characters, the physical description doesn’t matter, but I do think it is essential for Fain to have an almost rat-like appearance and to seem physically fragile.
Another suggestion I have seen is Steve Buscemi. While Buscemi is a closer fit physically,

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Steve Buscemi

I still don’t think he is a good choice for this role. He is an established, well-known actor and while he can play villains, I don’t know how well he can do vengeful and crazy.

So, where does that leave us? I don’t think Fain’s character arc warrants the hiring of a well-known actor. He actually does not get that much screen time and I would rather they (the studio) use their budget on good effects, an excellent narrator and maybe a big name to play Moiraine or Thom.

 

 

 


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Larry Hankin

My top pick for Padan Fain is Larry Hankin. Now I am going to guess that you most of you don’t recognize that name, but you will know his face. He has had numerous TV and movie roles, and he is one of those actors that we all recognize on sight, but we have no idea what his name is. I think he has a look and the acting range to play Fain, my only concern is his age. He is 77, and while that is probably around the age, Fain is I am not sure that bodes well for a casting suggestion. Since we don’t really know the timeline of the actual production, there is a good chance Mr. Hankin would be retired before the tv adaption ever hit the small screen.

 

My second choice for Fain is John Hawkes. He has the look and an impressive acting

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John Hawkes

resume. He is another one of those actors that you know, but don’t know. A plus to this pick is that he is 58, and while that is a younger than Fain I think it will give us more leeway as Fain transforms to Mordeth as far as visuals. I think it is easier to make a younger person look old and haggard than to make an older person look younger. And Fain should definitely look haggard at some point.

So, there you have it, my casting picks for Padan Fain. Let me know what you think. You can comment on this post or email me at Ebonysedai@gmail.com.
Next week we will be casting Semirhage.

See you then!

 

A New Blog Series “To Cast A Villain”

Hey, Y’all!! So I haven’t posted anything since Jordancon back in April. That is because pesky things like kids, and work, and adulting keep getting in the way. As a result, I don’t always have as much time to dedicate to Wheel of Time as I would like. However, I am changing that starting with this.

By now most of you have heard that the Wheel of Time TV series is a go. This is what we know so far:

If that name sounds familiar it may be because he has worked on “Agents of SHIELD and “Chuck”. He was also on Survivor: Guatemala (2005).

Even more exciting the following was tweeted on his account:

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As you can imagine, this information has set the fandom all “a twitter” (no pun intended). Especially those of us that enjoy casting the characters. I mean, some of us have been doing this for years, decades even.

Now I was thinking about the new show and who I would cast, which led me to think about the casting panel at Jordancon (I am pretty sure I will be on it again next year), and that made me think about the theme for Jordancon 11. The theme is Shai’Con, you know, like Shai’tan…..Jennifer and Aubree really like puns. giphy1

Anyway, all that thinking hatched the following idea:

A blog series about casting the villains in The Wheel of Time!!!

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Brillant, right?!?!

Often, (at least in my experience) when fans discuss casting they focus on the Fab Five (Rand, Mat, Perrin, Egwene, and Nynaeve) Moiraine, Thom and Faile.  You may get a Lanfear or Moridin or Ishamael.

With this blog series, I want to focus on the “bad guys”; the Forsaken, Darkfriends, the just plain mean characters and of course Padan Fain.

Each post will include the physical description (of course) from the books and the Companion. It will also have my opinion on what traits and abilities an actor would need to be successful in the role. Lastly, it will include some of my picks for each character.

The series will be weekly starting August 1st.  The first villain I am going to focus on is Padan Fain (since we meet him first)

Do you have an actor in mind that you think would fit the role of Padan Fain?

Email me at EbonySedai@gmail.com with suggestion and the reason why you think the actor would be a perfect fit. I will include a few suggestions from the fandom.

Check back in a couple weeks for the first post in the “To Cast a Villain: The Forsaken, Darkfriends and More” series.

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Things No One Tells You About Jordancon

This is my third year attending Jordancon. It is an amazing experience (that I will attempt to write about in the next few days). And it is something that every Wheel of Time fan should attend.

But there are some things that no one tells first-timers (or even some people that have been multiple times) Not because they don’t want you to know, but because there is so much awesomeness they can’t keep track of it all.

As such, this is

The Official “Unofficial” Guide to the Things That No One Tells You About Jordancon.

First, we are going to cover some of the bigger things that need some explanation.

Con Suite 

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I will be honest, Jordancon is the only con I have ever attended. But it seems that the Con Suite is something rather unique to Jordancon. What is Con Suite, you ask?

In one word, it is food. In two words, it is FREE food.

Con Suite consist of meals, drinks and snacks generously provided by Jordancon.

The Schedule: Friday 4pm – 8pm, Saturday 8am – 8pm, and 8am – 1pm.

  • They provide vegetarian and gluten free options
  • They provide snacks and drinks
  • They provide sweets
  • They provide a place to sit and chat with other con goers.
  • They are amazing.

The Con Suite is run completely by volunteers (like all of Jordancon) and THEY.ARE.AMAZING.

Buffer Days

This is something not often discussed but after a few Jordancons we all figure out we need Buffer Days. Buffer days before and/or after the actual Con.

Pre-Con Buffer Day – If at all possible arrive in Atlanta on the Thursday prior to Con. It totally relieves the stress of travel, gives you a chance to get used to the hotel and there are always pre-con Shenanigans. And if you are an introvert like me that extra day might allow you relieve some anxiety.

Post-Con Buffer Day – It doesn’t matter if you leave right after Jordancon ends on Sunday or you wait until Monday to leave; a post-con buffer day is necessary (if you take nothing else away from this post, take this). A post-con buffer day is a day in between your arrival home and your first day back to “regular life”.

Example:

  • You leave Atlanta on Monday Morning.
  • You arrive home sometime on Monday.
  • Stay home all day Tuesday.
  • Return to regular activities on Wednesday.

Now I know some of you are saying “If I leave the day after Jordancon is over, surely I don’t need a buffer day”

You are wrong.

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You actually may need it more if you wait until Monday to leave. The reality is the Con really isn’t over until the last person leaves. After Jordancon there is “Couch Con”.

Couch Con

Jordancon officially ends on Sunday at 4 pm.

And then “Couch Con” begins. This is a giant hangout session (in the gaming hall and/ or consuite). Everyone is more relaxed (which is saying something, because we are all pretty chill already).

But at this point you can just visit with old and new friends. No panels to get to , no rushing to buy things at the Art Show, no changing in and out of costumes.

Just think of it as the giant sigh of relief that follows a successful Jordancon.

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There is a lot of hugging that goes on at Jordancon. There are a lot of people, there are a lot of germs. A good portion of us come down with “Con Crud” at least once. It is a head/chest/cold/sore throat with a stuffy nose & sneezing thing. I suggest bulking up your immune system before you go and keep hand sanitizer…..well….on hand.

Post Con Depression aka PCD aka #pcd

After an experience as amazing as Jordancon it is only natural to feel sad and a little empty upon returning to the “regular” world. For many of us this is the only time we see  each other in person.

You will long for con suite hotdogs…..you will expect kind strangers to give you ribbons…….you will be tempted to hug people…….you will randomly assign people to an Ajahs based on the color they are wearing.giphy5

You will hunt, aimlessly, for like minded people. Those who appreciate a good pun, who yearn to Channel, who would give their soul for a Shardblade.

WHERE IS YOUR TRIBE?!?!?!

No, worries, we are on Facebook

CaptureThe Jordancon Facebook Group

This is where the cool kids hangout. This is the best place to get your Jcon Family Fix throughout the year. It is also where all the pictures are and where epic shenanigans are planned If you haven’t joined you should.

 

Volunteering

Speaking Jcon Family, the best way to get to know people is by volunteering. There are quite a few volunteer opportunities and it is get to know people and for people to get to know you. More information about volunteering is posted in the Facebook group as Jordancon gets closer.

Safety

Jordancon is kid-friendly (I know it might not look that way from some of the pictures, but it is). Many congoers bring their kids. Of course there are some things that aren’t exactly “family activities” but those take place after the kiddos go to bed.

Ribbons

Speaking of Ribbons, be sure to get some while at Jordancon. Ribbons are fancy 20180421_172919accoutrements that are a must have at Jordancon….now there seems to be an unspoken competition between some in the Jcon Family to see who can collect the most ribbons *cough* Aubree *cough*.

There are two kinds of Ribbons.

Official Con Ribbons (vendor, director, program participant, eternal member, volunteer) and then there are ton of fun Ribbons you can get. From vendors to other Con-goers, Ribbons abound.

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Budget

You are going to want to buy everything in the vendor hall. Most things average $25 – $45. My rule of thumb is to take whatever amount you were going to budget for the vendor hall and increase it by half. (Of course, this is only if it is the fiscally responsible thing to do. Remember you still have to pay for your hotel and travel). I do believe the Keepers of the Con are working on having more Vendor information available prior to the next Jordancon.

Nine Horse Hitch

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So those are the major things that no one tells you. But here is some sage words from the JconFamily on Facebook:

That it was highly addictive and that I would absolutely leave with an untreatable JordanCon problem. – Ashley Chappell-Peeples

If you don’t arrive Thursday and depart on Monday then you’re missing half the fun. – Jeffrey Daniel (of Ta’veren Tees)

It’s perfectly ok to attend and not go to any panels and still have an amazing time. –Phillip Calvin Edwards

(but totally come to my panels 😉 )

That person you are shy about approaching just might want to meet you and is too shy to say so. At least smile and say hello. (then leave them alone if they don’t seem interested) –Steve Waldrop


A few words of wisdom from me:

  • Drink plenty of water (just trust me)
  • Take plenty of selfies
  • Make space on your phone and/or camera for photos and videos
  • Don’t be afraid to talk to the artists or authors or Harriet (My first year I was super shy, but she is SOOO nice)
  • VOLUNTEER
  • Book your hotel room as soon as the block becomes available
  • DOWNLOAD THE APP
  • You don’t have drink (alcohol) to have fun. But if you DO drink alcohol make sure you bring some.
  • Book you hotel as soon as the room block opens.

And lastly, we should all follow the Keepers of the Con 3,2,1 Rule:

3 hours of sleep every 24 hours

2 meals every 24 hours

1 shower every 24 hours

See y’all next time

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Robert Jordan’s Notes Panel – Jordancon 10(2018)

THERE ARE GOING TO BE SPOILERS.  

IF YOU DON’T WANT SPOILERS DO NOT READ THIS.

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Well Jordancon is over and I, once again, attended the Robert Jordan’s notes panel. For those that don’t know, this panel consist of those lucky few fans that have seen Robert Jordan’s notes (this some of these notes are available for public viewing. I will have to look up where and add it to this post)

This year the panelist included Linda Taglieri (creator of The Thirteenth Depository blog), Matt Hatch (creator of Theoryland) and Terez Gray from numerous Wheel of Time Forums.

Below you will find the notes I took on the notes the talked about. Some things were mentioned last year, but I am including them because they are still super interesting.

Before we get started, a few things of note:

  1. THERE ARE GOING TO BE SPOILERS.  IF YOU DON’T WANT SPOILERS DO NOT READ THIS. (this bears repeating)
  2. This is your last chance to turn back
  3. Ok then…
  4. Spoilers/notes start on the next page

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Several fans asked by to find out if Aviendha got pregnant before or after the Last Battle. No one on the panel recalled seeing notes on this, but Terez is going to look for it.

ON TO THE NOTES:

  • Birgitte knows what the oath rod was used for in the Age of Legends but she has never seen one.  
  • Binders (oath rods) came in other forms, not just rods
  • Originally Moiraine  was going to become Amyrlin
  • Moiraine was going to be rescued by Rand
  • Nyneave was going to be raped by Shadair Haran
  • Galad was going to be a dark friend (what!?!)
  • Nyneave was going to kill (or appear to kill) Moiraine after she (Moiraine) became Amyrlin.
  • Galad was supposed to be able to Channel. And really we don’t know if you can or not because he was never tested (and it does run in the family)
  • Ogier were supposed to be dwarf like
  • There is nothing about Shara in the Notes. River of Souls was 100% Brandon
  • Lan was going to flee, become a hermit and then return to fight (does that sound familiar??)
  • Sakan (I am not 100% on the spelling) was going to be the name of the Dark One
  • RJ toyed with the idea of 7 or 9 ages. He settled on 7.
  • The White Goddess  by Robert Graves was a big influence on Robert Jordan.
  • Cadsuane (spelled Kadsuane in the notes) was around from the beginning
  • Binders could be used on non-channelers.
  • The a’dam has a buffer to stop damane from being burned out. This buffer also lessened the shock of the Warder Bond being broken.
  • Life Spans During the Age of Legends – this was really interesting, but I didn’t manage to get all the information. What I did get is below:
    • Ordinary People lived 200 years on average
    • Aes Sedai could live up to 800 years
    • There was also some information on how Binding affected life span, but that is the part I missed
  • Memory of Light Outline:
    • Egwene was to be pregnant at the end of the series (by Gawyn). Gawyn still died and Galad would take of Egwene and the baby
    • Isam and Fain showed up in the Last Battle and maybe killed each other.
    • The Last Battle was supposed to take place near the ruins of Caemlyn

Humans were the real enemy, not the Dark One. Destroying choice is the real enemy. (many fans feel like this is a “Brandon” theme. However, the very early notes show that this was Robert Jordan’s overarching theme from the very beginning)

That is all for this year.  

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